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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://mattwiebe.com/2006/10/im-a-minority-group/comment-page-1/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ivory towers have such nice big juicy words that make me feel important.&quot;

hehe... nice one.

Not sure what I think about your prof&#039;s promotion of hypermodernity... I guess we might be heading in that direction, but I don&#039;t feel like I want us to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ivory towers have such nice big juicy words that make me feel&nbsp;important.&#8221;</p>
<p>hehe&#8230; nice&nbsp;one.</p>
<p>Not sure what I think about your prof&#8217;s promotion of hypermodernity&#8230; I guess we might be heading in that direction, but I don&#8217;t feel like I want us&nbsp;to.</p>
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		<title>By: Cam</title>
		<link>http://mattwiebe.com/2006/10/im-a-minority-group/comment-page-1/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>Cam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And get people thinking about it in the church too.

&quot;Hey, welcome to today&#039;s message on the book of Revelation. By the way, did you know that even while the metanarrative of Christianity is being negated in the public sphere you are being sold something else as a replacement? And here&#039;s a hint, it&#039;s not plurality and tolerance, though they&#039;d love you to think so, and it has dollar-signs all over it; John agrees.&quot;

On another note, one of my profs, a proponent of the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-modernity&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hyper-modernity &lt;/A&gt; hypothesis, commented the other day that post-modernity is really just modernity&#039;s cry for help.

Kind of a neat way of thinking about it eh?

Ivory towers have such nice big juicy words that make me feel important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And get people thinking about it in the church&nbsp;too.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hey, welcome to today&#8217;s message on the book of Revelation. By the way, did you know that even while the metanarrative of Christianity is being negated in the public sphere you are being sold something else as a replacement? And here&#8217;s a hint, it&#8217;s not plurality and tolerance, though they&#8217;d love you to think so, and it has dollar-signs all over it; John&nbsp;agrees.&#8221;</p>
<p>On another note, one of my profs, a proponent of the <a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-modernity">hyper-modernity </a> hypothesis, commented the other day that post-modernity is really just modernity&#8217;s cry for&nbsp;help.</p>
<p>Kind of a neat way of thinking about it&nbsp;eh?</p>
<p>Ivory towers have such nice big juicy words that make me feel&nbsp;important.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://mattwiebe.com/2006/10/im-a-minority-group/comment-page-1/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who says that it has to leave the ivory tower? Mine is quite comfortable and cozy. ;)

The problem with dealing with metanarrative-level things is that you can&#039;t go out and just change them. What you can and should do is much harder: confront them individual situations with the message of the kingdom of God, saying that God has turned the world upside down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says that it has to leave the ivory tower? Mine is quite comfortable and cozy. <img src='http://mattwiebe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The problem with dealing with metanarrative-level things is that you can&#8217;t go out and just change them. What you can and should do is much harder: confront them individual situations with the message of the kingdom of God, saying that God has turned the world upside&nbsp;down.</p>
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		<title>By: Cam</title>
		<link>http://mattwiebe.com/2006/10/im-a-minority-group/comment-page-1/#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator>Cam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad part is we deny the place of metanarratives, but then buy in all the same to this one!

But then again I really wonder whether any of this discussion ever leaves the ivory tower. It&#039;s easy to criticize the way we do church eh? Far too easy.

But we should be our own harshest critics I think, as long as we can find a way to do it in love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad part is we deny the place of metanarratives, but then buy in all the same to this&nbsp;one!</p>
<p>But then again I really wonder whether any of this discussion ever leaves the ivory tower. It&#8217;s easy to criticize the way we do church eh? Far too&nbsp;easy.</p>
<p>But we should be our own harshest critics I think, as long as we can find a way to do it in&nbsp;love.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ryan

Thanks for coming by, and for adding your comments. I appreciate your insight that the N.American metanarrative is a profoundly economic-consumerist one. My, my, that would be a fun rabbit hole to explore! Hmmm....

And congratulations on 10 years of marriage! Jaclyn and I just celebrated our first year together in June.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey&nbsp;Ryan</p>
<p>Thanks for coming by, and for adding your comments. I appreciate your insight that the N.American metanarrative is a profoundly economic-consumerist one. My, my, that would be a fun rabbit hole to explore!&nbsp;Hmmm&#8230;.</p>
<p>And congratulations on 10 years of marriage! Jaclyn and I just celebrated our first year together in&nbsp;June.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

Great blog you&#039;ve got here! It hits me that the problem in contemporary No. America is not the loss of metanarrative, but the shifting of metanarrative. It is now the ecomony that is the overarching story of our age. And here we see it again, approaching marriage like an automobile. A serious commitment to be sure, but certainly not forever. A 5 year loan and maybe a few years after it&#039;s paid off and then trade it in for a newer model. I&#039;ve heard guys joke like this for years. The whole test drive metaphor fits perfectly. I&#039;m one who thinks we don&#039;t use these metaphors in a vacuum. Our imagination has been formed by the consumerist economic rationality of our time and now we can&#039;t think outside those terms. Thanks for highlighting this important issue! And congrats on being married. My wife and I just celebrated 10 years this past Aug. and we have two little girls (3 and 6). We live in a two bedroom apartment in Los Angeles. Talk about countercultural!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>Great blog you&#8217;ve got here! It hits me that the problem in contemporary No. America is not the loss of metanarrative, but the shifting of metanarrative. It is now the ecomony that is the overarching story of our age. And here we see it again, approaching marriage like an automobile. A serious commitment to be sure, but certainly not forever. A 5 year loan and maybe a few years after it&#8217;s paid off and then trade it in for a newer model. I&#8217;ve heard guys joke like this for years. The whole test drive metaphor fits perfectly. I&#8217;m one who thinks we don&#8217;t use these metaphors in a vacuum. Our imagination has been formed by the consumerist economic rationality of our time and now we can&#8217;t think outside those terms. Thanks for highlighting this important issue! And congrats on being married. My wife and I just celebrated 10 years this past Aug. and we have two little girls (3 and 6). We live in a two bedroom apartment in Los Angeles. Talk about&nbsp;countercultural!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Karin...

The stats are USAmerican. You might be right in suspecting that Canadian numbers would be even lower, but I have a hunch that they won&#039;t be hugely different.

School gets in the way of all kinds of learning, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey&nbsp;Karin&#8230;</p>
<p>The stats are USAmerican. You might be right in suspecting that Canadian numbers would be even lower, but I have a hunch that they won&#8217;t be hugely&nbsp;different.</p>
<p>School gets in the way of all kinds of learning,&nbsp;eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Thandeka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thandeka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are the stats North &quot;American&quot; or United States of &quot;American?&quot; If the latter, it would be interesting to see what Canadian stats look like, you may be more of minority than you think... or maybe not, I can&#039;t say that I know. Maybe I will look it up, though probably not, I should technically be studying for midterms. Try me next week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are the stats North &#8220;American&#8221; or United States of &#8220;American?&#8221; If the latter, it would be interesting to see what Canadian stats look like, you may be more of minority than you think&#8230; or maybe not, I can&#8217;t say that I know. Maybe I will look it up, though probably not, I should technically be studying for midterms. Try me next&nbsp;week.</p>
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		<title>By: Jac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would say that if you begin to use the metaphor of purchasing a car to apply to marriage, you are going in a very wrong direction.
you test drive, you commit to purchase, car gets too many miles, driver returns car for newer shinier model.

is there any real evidence to suggest that cohabitation before marriage is a good idea?  cause i havent seen any, aside from the cheaper rent arguement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would say that if you begin to use the metaphor of purchasing a car to apply to marriage, you are going in a very wrong direction.<br />
you test drive, you commit to purchase, car gets too many miles, driver returns car for newer shinier&nbsp;model.</p>
<p>is there any real evidence to suggest that cohabitation before marriage is a good idea?  cause i havent seen any, aside from the cheaper rent&nbsp;arguement.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that any of us EVER think that way. I don&#039;t ever use hyperbole either...

Unfortunately, I think you hit the nail on the head. I keep learning about church from marriage. Bah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that any of us EVER think that way. I don&#8217;t ever use hyperbole&nbsp;either&#8230;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I think you hit the nail on the head. I keep learning about church from marriage.&nbsp;Bah.</p>
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