Comments on: Ecclesiastical Imagination http://mattwiebe.com/2009/02/ecclesiastical-imagination/ Matt Wiebe's blog about faith and life. Sun, 25 Jul 2010 07:34:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1-beta By: Matt http://mattwiebe.com/2009/02/ecclesiastical-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-16987 Matt Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:19:50 +0000 http://mattwiebe.com/?p=670#comment-16987 @<a href="#comment-16985" rel="nofollow">Adam</a> Nice list. No, great list. @Adam Nice list. No, great list.

]]> By: Adam http://mattwiebe.com/2009/02/ecclesiastical-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-16985 Adam Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:25:24 +0000 http://mattwiebe.com/?p=670#comment-16985 1. bicycle repair/parts shop 2. big ass garden 3. sauna 4. overflowing with people who suffer from social awkwardness, poverty concerns and a sense that their lives are not their own, to do with as they please. 5. I think church needs a public space (that can always be given away) that it can extend in moments of abundant generosity. For example: the displaced people in a flood perhaps or the unemployed. The widow, the orphan, etc. Besides, it's fun to build spaces that have a neutral or even positive ecological footprint. 6. Confession happens daily in real/contextual ways. 7. An hydrogen/electric bus would be helpful 8. Having listed all of these... the church has to have special ears for listening to the cries of the community that surrounds it and understanding what it could actually do to make life more creature-like, more human and to nurse entitled cries into silence and contemplation. 1. bicycle repair/parts shop
2. big ass garden
3. sauna
4. overflowing with people who suffer from social awkwardness, poverty concerns and a sense that their lives are not their own, to do with as they please.
5. I think church needs a public space (that can always be given away) that it can extend in moments of abundant generosity. For example: the displaced people in a flood perhaps or the unemployed. The widow, the orphan, etc. Besides, it’s fun to build spaces that have a neutral or even positive ecological footprint.
6. Confession happens daily in real/contextual ways.
7. An hydrogen/electric bus would be helpful
8. Having listed all of these… the church has to have special ears for listening to the cries of the community that surrounds it and understanding what it could actually do to make life more creature-like, more human and to nurse entitled cries into silence and contemplation.

]]> By: Matt http://mattwiebe.com/2009/02/ecclesiastical-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-16980 Matt Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:34:03 +0000 http://mattwiebe.com/?p=670#comment-16980 @<a href="#comment-16977" class="link-back" rel="nofollow">Mike Crowl</a> Glad it challenges you. It sure challenges me! @Mike Crowl Glad it challenges you. It sure challenges me!

]]> By: Matt http://mattwiebe.com/2009/02/ecclesiastical-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-16978 Matt Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:32:45 +0000 http://mattwiebe.com/?p=670#comment-16978 @<a href="#comment-16975" class="link-back" rel="nofollow">becks</a> Well, if not having a bank account meant that a church couldn't help out a family in need, that'd be a failure, for sure. But could the church cultivate a form of life without a bank account and still be able to help? Although I hope so, that's a tough one, for sure. @becks Well, if not having a bank account meant that a church couldn’t help out a family in need, that’d be a failure, for sure. But could the church cultivate a form of life without a bank account and still be able to help? Although I hope so, that’s a tough one, for sure.

]]> By: Mike Crowl http://mattwiebe.com/2009/02/ecclesiastical-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-16977 Mike Crowl Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:04:47 +0000 http://mattwiebe.com/?p=670#comment-16977 I've only just caught up on this post, and while I find your imaginative points interesting, I found the point about being a critical person more useful to me. I'm good at criticizing, and don't find it easy to take it that next step and build on the criticism to bring something better. I've taken a note of that first sentence and will keep it in mind. Thanks! I’ve only just caught up on this post, and while I find your imaginative points interesting, I found the point about being a critical person more useful to me. I’m good at criticizing, and don’t find it easy to take it that next step and build on the criticism to bring something better. I’ve taken a note of that first sentence and will keep it in mind. Thanks!

]]> By: becks http://mattwiebe.com/2009/02/ecclesiastical-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-16975 becks Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:00:59 +0000 http://mattwiebe.com/?p=670#comment-16975 Joel> although I like your list, I don't understand what you mean by numbers 1 and 2. I also am not a fan of no bank account. I'm a huge fan of the church in support of those who need it, whether financial or otherwise. When I was in highschool my dad lost his job and we were on welfare for two years while he went back to school, and our church helped out a LOT. They wouldn't have been able to do that without a place for people to send that money first. Other than that, I love this list Matt. Joel> although I like your list, I don’t understand what you mean by numbers 1 and 2. I also am not a fan of no bank account. I’m a huge fan of the church in support of those who need it, whether financial or otherwise. When I was in highschool my dad lost his job and we were on welfare for two years while he went back to school, and our church helped out a LOT. They wouldn’t have been able to do that without a place for people to send that money first. Other than that, I love this list Matt.

]]> By: Matt http://mattwiebe.com/2009/02/ecclesiastical-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-16950 Matt Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:35:23 +0000 http://mattwiebe.com/?p=670#comment-16950 @<a href="#comment-16946" rel="nofollow">joel mason</a> Great thoughts here. I like the mix of practical and abstract you have going on there, good fuel for the ecclesiastical imagination @joel mason Great thoughts here. I like the mix of practical and abstract you have going on there, good fuel for the ecclesiastical imagination

]]> By: joel mason http://mattwiebe.com/2009/02/ecclesiastical-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-16946 joel mason Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:21:29 +0000 http://mattwiebe.com/?p=670#comment-16946 1. be living schools (and inter-schools) of discipleship 2. connect in a committed way to Tradition 3. Be simultaneously wise and childlike (simplicity the other side of complexity) 4. Be a hub for community organizing and non violent resistance 5. Be filled with the Holy Spirit, again and again. a community that is simply desperate for God. 6. Be a community which discerns the Word together, in silence and in conversation. 1. be living schools (and inter-schools) of discipleship

2. connect in a committed way to Tradition

3. Be simultaneously wise and childlike (simplicity the other side of complexity)

4. Be a hub for community organizing and non violent resistance

5. Be filled with the Holy Spirit, again and again. a community that is simply desperate for God.

6. Be a community which discerns the Word together, in silence and in conversation.

]]> By: mountainguy http://mattwiebe.com/2009/02/ecclesiastical-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-16942 mountainguy Mon, 23 Feb 2009 02:47:20 +0000 http://mattwiebe.com/?p=670#comment-16942 About flagas, I thought something like "more fags and less flags", but using the word fag could be offensive for some people in the audience. About flagas, I thought something like “more fags and less flags”, but using the word fag could be offensive for some people in the audience.

]]> By: Matt http://mattwiebe.com/2009/02/ecclesiastical-imagination/comment-page-1/#comment-16940 Matt Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:52:47 +0000 http://mattwiebe.com/?p=670#comment-16940 @<a href="#comment-16939" rel="nofollow">mountainguy</a> Good call, especially on the flag part. I always forget about that temptation, because we don't tend to do that here in Canada. @mountainguy Good call, especially on the flag part. I always forget about that temptation, because we don’t tend to do that here in Canada.

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